I have placed the instructions I put together (that also includes those of the founder of the concept) with very detailed procedures and lots of photos for those who want to see instead of just read words on how to do it. I added these instructions on several each Yahoo and Facebook A-Frame groups in the US. In case you can't find it anywhere you are free to join the open yahoo group I put together to post this file at: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/A-FrameTeam/info, Here is a link to the grand roof raising ceremony to the most recent US older A-Frame trailer that had these installed a week ago: ttps://youtu.be/izTm3Y7bzqI. Luckily I had some wire on board so used that to secure the hinges and tied down the roof with ropes. Does anyone know or have any experience with this type of small camper please:? My rear over axle weight capacity is 1570 kg, With a small budget of between $15,000- $20,000 does anyone have any suggestion that maybe the best option I should be looking at please? Super Strength Smooth Panel Construction INTERIOR FEAT Tow Away $37,390 Enquire More Info ASPIRE 402 Composite Aluminium One-Piece Panels Hot Dipped Galvanized Chassis Gas Electric Hot Water Gas Cooktop 12v Range Hood 3 Embraer 170 System Manual seowebservices net. Then your local club will probably have people to advise you. G'day Brian and Jim, thanks for that, I will give them a call. If you look at this A'Lite A'van, you will see where it has had gas struts fitted to help raise the roof. Would never ever buy a Golf again. There are a couple on the forum and they might see your question and reply., DOUG Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age), TUG.2014 Holden LT Colorado Twin Cab Ute with Canopy, DEN. 2014 "Chief" Arrow CV (with some changes). Thanks guys for all your comments and feed back. Just a thought. 2023 ProductReview.com.au Pty. The information I am particularly interested in is how these campers handle corrugated and bumpy dirt roads. Vic - Mitsubishi Outlander and rear end tent. G'day Duh, thank you for your post and comments; along with fellow posters I have been able to source the tape for the job.now comes the messy bit of cleaning old adhesive and fiddly access but a pretty cheap outcome at around $40.00 for all items including acetone, scraper. So many choices.. It was also handed over in a filthy state, despite being brand new. http://www.aroundoz.com/a_clinic.htm Another interesting site. I've just purchased a 2003 Avan Cruiseliner in very good condition.Lifting the roof though is heavier than what I can physically manage. I'm a tall,active, fit woman but I reckon weight-bearing exercises are a lot easier than this! When you have your roof panels in the horizontal position and latched, run your finger along inside lower edge of aluminium edging, or bend down and look under and you will see a foam strip. I put stronger (same size but thicker gauge) coil springs on the rear of my Xtrail, still a good ride but improved any sag at the rear when hitched up check this out , I know it can be some times difficult, I know that, but it only needs a bit of imagination to wonder if it might not be possible adapt the unit to raise this roof too.. G'day Powercasta,I've got a Jayco Discovery Outback bought new last September,had a couple of small problems the first trip but have had no trouble since * Pricing is based on a standard 2019 model. That upgrade might help. via the Savannah Way, Gibb River Road Derby Broome etc. I contacted Avan and was told that the foam is 3/4 x3/4 h/density..maybe Avan allow an amount of additional weight (Carrying Load) for each individual unit manufactured above the initial manufactured Tare Weight of the unit. The gas struts do work, I had them on the side of one of my two Avan camper vans that I've had, they were on it when I bought it (after market fit). However as I said there are a few members of the Avan Club of Australia also using them. Transport has no borders. You could also email this Canberra branch (see link in text for email contact) and ask them what you could do, also lots of good mods and advice on their site, see; http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ekthomas/. WebThe Avan Aliner camper is 100% solid wall construction, taking under 30 seconds to assemble. This dealership will turn people off the AVAN brand which would be a real shame the vans are awesome its just this dealer that is disgraceful. Hi Alan, there has been a lot of online conversations of late around the 'baggage' allowance. Dougwe, yes the upgraded chassis/suspension would be a minimum I think also, and I did have a look underneath and agree that the axle is still a bit low. I have 2007 cruise liner cant find drain for air con. It has an on/off switch. How do you stop the top roof domes from coming open during travel? Hope it's a simple fix :), Manual on how to use heater in avan cruiseliner. My friend from the Avan Club also told me that one of their members over east have made a lifting device and sells them, suggest you contact the Avan Club and ask them for details of this blokes device, also about the gas struts, here are the contact details; http://www.avanclubaust.org.au/501/Contact_Us/. Avan Jensen 609 Adventure Pack It will sort us out ATM and clearance wise :) We also changed the chains, jockey wheel and hitch to ensure better function and weight specifications. Particularly unethical in the cases where vans/trailers are optioned up without the purchaser being aware that the options are coming out of the ATM, not being added on to the AGM total (our first van situation). Govt. Was told by the dealer that they all look like that. e abusive manager in Bathurst, I definitely would not recommend anybody go there, after sales service is non existent, and not worth the effort. Below. ?His alternative was to design a see-saw arrangement to assist the lift. I ended up driving home like that and fixed the window myself, had to remove it (black mastic type stuff all around it, made a hell of a mess) and fix the hinges.So might pay just to check the hinges of the windows now and then, unless they have changed using aluminium rivetswith stell ones. I leave in a weekon my first solo trip sowill feel much more confident if I have a solution to this before I leave.. Personally, we wrestle with our ATM 'total' and travel with as much as possible in the car as well as an empty water tank until we're close to the camp site or fill up with J.Cans after we've arrived. When the finance was declined he refused to refund me. It might simply be tightening or resealing a joint. The chassis/suspension upgrade and larger tyres would be a must have option I think. I've just purchased a 2003 Avan Cruiseliner in very good condition.Lifting the roof though is heavier than what I can physically manage. I'm a tall,active, fit woman but I reckon weight-bearing exercises are a lot easier than this! This trailer may have the two lower panel gas springs reduced to 50 pounds so a bit of lift is required by the owner. Due to the crushing weight of the new panels (with new strong factory-metal springs) the owner wanted to start with four each 75 pound force springs because the (bathroom scale) measured weight of 30 pounds at the end indicated that 100 pounds of force was needed at the point of application. What was missed is that the force when compressed is not 75 pounds. It raised based on the design characteristics of the gas spring to as much as 50% higher. So where she needed 200 pounds to raise the roof panels--she was seeing 225 pounds with the initial installation. That is why you see these panels rise on their own! I think it might be the fridge. I have noted in my travels a Brand new Kimberley Camper with a broken suspension, Large new off road you beut caravan with fridge fallen out of its cabinet, sky domes ripped off in slip stream. Every step of the process is made to be as simple as possible and to result in an awning that is safe, secure and sturdy. It was in my car manual.I pull with an old Hilux, which can only tow 1800kg and 150kg on the ball. Incidentally we turn the pump of overnight and if we're away for the day as a power conservation measure and if there was a plumbing failure (all be it unlikely). I took it on dirt and corrigated roads, SLOWLY. Govt. This trailer may have the two lower panel gas springs reduced to 50 pounds so a bit of lift is required by the owner. Due to the crushing weight of the new panels, This most recent modification was accomplished by a lady who enjoys such projects. The attached article is on my 2005 Aliner that was desperately needing a simple method of raising the roof panels. My panels raise up to 15" when the latches are released. Then I need to add a minor effort to raise them up to the fully up location. I used 40 pound springs on the first three. Today I would have used 30 pound springs, So no matter what the obstacle you can put a gas spring at each corner. You may just need to find one that has the correct parameters to do the job. Most trailers should need about 30 pound force springs. Did you have to isolate BOTH pairs or just the heavy duty pair? When travelling folded, the roof vent surrounds are rubbing on the rear roof section - rubbed thru paint onto alloy. Seems reasonable to me too - not that I tow but just from stories around the campfire. We have a 2016 Cruiseliner and laying in bed at night we can hear water dripping. Webproblem YouTube. Go and hire a Cabin in the Campground and spend time talking to the members for advice. Avan Campers Avan Campers Caravans amp Motorhomes. Hi TandB, we also had a boot water problem with our 2004, but haven't see a drop in the boot for around 5 yrs after putting on a 'temporary' vinyl skirt. There are various ways of getting a SLIGHT positive pressure inside a van. My vehicle is a 2.8lt Toyota Hilux 4x4 utility with over axle leaf shocks together with ENCORE BIG BORE 4X4 shock absorbers. http://www.avanwa.com.au/ , The foam is mainly to keep out dust, insects, draughtetc. Another thing to consider is the nylon strips you can also buy which help your panels slide over each other when closing the roof down and putting up etc, they wear or come off after awhile too and adding extra bits certainly help with the lifting by stoppingthe aluminium edging from sticking. In the past, I also replaced some of my foam bits, the stuff you get from Avan repairers/parts alreadyhas adhesive on one side (peel off protecting skin) for easy attachment, making sure old surface is clean etc. Your lights won't only work on 12v but also 240v when you plug it into say a caravan site. Don't take life too seriously, it never ends well. Thanks amillion for your input though - it's much appreciated. Vic - Mitsubishi Outlander and rear end tent. Mazda BT50 towing a 22'6" Aussie Humpback. My forward panel looks ok, however the rear panel definately needs to be replaced. WebEffortless Avan Cruiseliner Setup YouTube May 6th, 2018 - How to set up an Avan Cruiseliner View it at our Canopy Downunda Shade Canopy and privacy screens for Avan Sportliner Aliner Cruiser and Cruiseliner A van Aliner Reviews ProductReview com au May 2nd, 2018 - A van Aliner 24 customer reviews Being a solo female owner of an Avan Aliner Web2005 Avan Cruiseliner, excellent condition (all books and receipts), 3 berth, stored under cover. It my motto in life ! Again under warranty. Vickie, ex Bricklayer 20 years & 33 years Carpet Cleaning. . Or get the Avan agent near you to replace them, they have to replace the Bungee Cord as well when doing this job. We had a Avan WA club workshop over this weekend and changed the springs on one of our solo members Aliner. All of the must not exceed the GVM, gross vehicle mass, allowed for your car. The reason I went for an off roader was because it is tougher than an on road model and I know it will not let me down on the roads like the Gibb River Road, again provided I drive sensibly, but when it comes to extreme stuff, I leave it parked safely in a CP and camp in my 4x4. I know other Avanners with both Off Road vans and standard jobs like ours who travel on dirt a lot. . Had no trouble lifting the roof section on any of these. Cupboards fallen off the wall, Three way fridge came adrift and the condenser unit split and fridge written off. Doug, I think the van with the flat roof you were talking about was a Coromal camper trailer (similar to an Avan camper but with a flat roof bit on top), they had struts on the side but they no longer make them, they had a lot of leaking problems with the roofs, there are still a few around on the market. Coromal still make the camper trailer that is similar to the Jayco ones, but that is not the one I am talking about. As well as the bungy cords Doug, the inside springs weaken over time too and may have to be replaced, although uncommon. I also added some extra nylon flat stripsbetweenthe roof and bodyoverlaps (available as Avan parts) they made the roof part easier when raising and they didn't "stick". WHY. E.g. If we're bushing it for a while we carry the equivalent of a second tank in Jerry cans in the car and depending where we're camping we usually can get another fill up if we go somewhere where there's potable water. Could I suggest that you weigh the van on a weighbridge first to check/confirm the weights. On the back of my AlinerI had a large (long) wind out window, when visiting the cliff tops on the Nullabor, there was a howling northerly wind blowing out to sea. We drove in ok and parked sideways in the parking lot near the cliffs. As we were walking back to the van SWMBO said she thought the rear window was lifting. I had tighly closed with the chain and the window levers were down inside (I also had something on them to stop them fromvibrating up when down- Velcro I think). Hi well I can only assume that you have something running draining the battery you need to put an isolator switch on the batteries so when the batteries are charged and not in use turn the isolator switch on to cut all current power if you're not able to do this you need an auto electrician to do it I did mine and had no more problem this is only the one solution at the moment. You would get a lot of help on their Members Only Website when you become a member. If you go on any rough road things will come loose in any van if you are not prepared. Hi Mike and thanks for the info re type of foam. Lots are well maintained roads that possibly will be closed when wet (this is for Protecting the road surface) Consider how much actual Dirt Road driving your rig will be doing. I contacted Avan and was told that the foam is 3/4 x3/4 h/densitymaybe thats so for the front, but the rear foam is less & measuresmore around 15mm tops! Wouldn't they be able to adapt it somehow ?. WebAvan RVs have Centurion Chassis made with hot dipped galvanised steel that protects them from corrosion. Enquire More Info. (inside/lower edge of L shaped aluminium facing down when closed and latched). Things hadnt been finished properly, and they had no intention of fixing it. But Why doesn't the pump STOP, Hi Bea, I'm no expert just handy :) My understanding is the pump maintains pressure in the line if it's left on. A. If they can do this, wouldn't that be similar to what would be needed for the "A" Van ? Drove to BorderVillage but no mechanic there or help, and at Eucla the mechanic was playing golf on a bush gold link somewhere (not the NullaborLinks) and was not expected back for some time. When I got to the border inspection they made me undo all the ropes and lift the roof a bit so they could inspect inside (bummer), the girl inspector crawled inside the partly open roof to check the fridge, at least I didn't have to lift the whole roof and only had to re-secure the ropes. Went to update our 2005 avan only to find the quality of production has gone down hill dramatically. That's only 60 odd ks but with the extras in the car it keeps us legal. Try to get one with windout windows both back and front, and two or three roof hatches for flow through ventilation and better still with aircon if you can. I had a Heron 2.2 fitted to mine under the table, later many went with the ducted under bed aircon. Don't believe the guff about the peaked roof acting like a chimney to make it cooler inside, like any van, in hot weather they are hot. Mine had the normal independent suspension, later Avan boosted these with hydraulic shockies.. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ekthomas/tips.html, http://www.avan.com.au/products_aliner.html (See floor layouts), http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ekthomas/mods.html, -- Edited by Duh on Sunday 7th of July 2013 09:18:51 PM. We have just picked up a 2012 Avan Cruiseliner and towed it from Bundaberg to Kingaroy with our auto 2011 Forester X to camp for the night and then back home to the Sunshine coast. . Mitsubishi Outlander and rear end tent. Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age), http://www.avanclubaust.org.au/501/Contact_Us/, http://www.avan.com.au/products_cruiser.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO1zqeizxHM. Welcome and safe travels. 3 people. Did anyone here taken the above camper/s on any offroad trip such as the Gibb River Road or similar and came home without any issues? Hi I have an AVAN Cruiseliner Adventure Pack Plus. I might View our Avan awning erection video View our 3 minute video that shows how simple it is to erect our Avan Awnings. I have had to renew all my seals on the Cruiseliner (2005) Think the seals used originaly were not Closed Cell type foam. I can't comment on a water reservoir's impact as I've never had one. We have our Avan Pressurised when on the dirt for that very reason. Charges Motorhome 20267 km 4 people Dealer Used NSW Contact seller View details 20 Compare 2014 Avan Owen Limited You could get the new car home and find you can't get inside it without exceeding GVM with the van attached. We have a huge network across Australia.View our dealer network page to locate your nearest dealer location. Thanks for the info guys, some good information there. Cheers Bob. If its not the above and you've eliminated the extension cord and the power source is definitely live, sounds like it's service centre time. The bumper bar on certain Avans is dangerous. Suggest you join this Nationalclub also, only $20 a year (plust$10joining fee)and you can attend any rally in Oz when travelling around, irrespective of what statebranch you belong to. I have difficulty getting the hooks back in place to hold it down. There are different floor plans for beds, either a fixed double (lift up storage) or some floor plans can convert to a double bed (our 2B Aliner did). I have never liked the slide out sofa bed on one model, but some others do. Probably the worst aspect of the doubles is if you are sleeping duo the person on the inside has to get out over the other one during the night or the other person has to get up too, not good on cold nights, lol ! They do have plans with single beds, either permanent or convertible. 4.44m. I shudder to think of how people go with some of the big ball weights. WebAvan AdventurePLUS revamps the traditional Aliner and Cruiseliner series of campers, maintaining the popular camper layouts with more rugged features and greater ground clearance to suite the more adventurous. The Australian AVAN CLUB is a great organisation with clubs in each state. Neither of those options suited us, so we kept the van. We have just bought extension cord and adaptors but no luck, Unfortunately no practical suggestions other than individually checking switches (on) and fuses (set). (I am researching all the regular (e-bay, caravanandcamping.com, RV traders, Gumtree and campertrailer.com sites but don't have a good plan) Gwynnie at matildatraveller, Have you at this time any ideas or plans of the roads/areas you would like to travel. Ive seen a PDF copy of an Aliner model owners manual, which does help, but I thought there would a similar manual available for the other models? My friend has an A-Van SportsLiner (the smallest 2 berth one that weighs about 700kg I think) and tows it with her 10 Forester XS auto and has been from one end of QLD to the other without much complaint other than the A-Van bounces around alot. If it has leaked the dealer will certainly be aware of it and Im very curious to know that http://alinerownersclub.org/ The American Site. Especially important are what weight your car can tow and what weight it can accept on the towball. Damn ,,, we need an Avan ,,, you guys have so much fun with them, There are 3 types of people in this world, Ones who make it happen, the second who watches what happens and the third who wonders what happened. Also if you have a Fiat etc that Facebook page also. This is a public forum presenting user opinions on selected products and businesses, and as such the views expressed do not reflect the opinion of ProductReview.com.au. I did take mine on a very rough corrugated and stony road near Nimbin that seemed to go on forever, a retaining bolt fell out of one ofthe overhead (when up) wind out hatches but otherwise survived that trip ok. Later towards the end of the 7 years, the large rear wind out window of mine worethrough the aluminium rivets on the three hinges that held it to the body, and I nearly lost the hatch into the Gt Australian Bight when a very strong Northerly wind (blowing out to sea) go under it, is SWMBO had not seen it in time before we turned into the wind it would have ended up over the cliff in the drinkmanaged to tie it down with coat hanger wire and ropes until I could get it fixed. , Due to the overwhelming negative responses everyone has passed onto me regarding the AVAN it is DEFINITELY NOT a consideration off road option for me. *Both Cruiser and Cruiseliner now offer optional titanium finish with black checkerplate protection for your camper. Salesman used Misleading and Deceptive Conduct when selling me a van. WebAvan Review by Caravan World. I hope that there is somebody out there who could benefit from the experimenting we are doing down under in the United States! You have more ways to consider mounting your gas springs. And please keep others informed of future breakthroughs in this developing technology. For years I looked for a method to deal with this aging spring issue. Now the issue is resolved. All this need attention before taking the van onto the Dirt or encountering hundreds of Klms of Corrugations, Our van has been modified to do these sort of trips. Thanks Nandk, i was hoping a jayco owner would give me an opinion thanks for that, like i said you can't go past their after sales service,have looked at a discovery they looked ok but will check out a few more cheers. Gwynnie- Matildatraveller, 'The self is not something one finds, it is something one creates.' 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